{"id":30,"date":"2004-10-28T12:57:54","date_gmt":"2004-10-28T12:57:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/2004\/10\/don%e2%80%99t-support-ie"},"modified":"2006-04-30T23:52:09","modified_gmt":"2006-04-30T23:52:09","slug":"dont-support-ie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/2004\/10\/dont-support-ie","title":{"rendered":"Don\u2019t Support IE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, <a href=\"http:\/\/charlvn.blogspot.com\/\">Charl van Niekerk<\/a> posted his comments about <a href=\"http:\/\/charlvn.blogspot.com\/2004\/10\/dump-ie.html\">dumping IE<\/a>, and I totally agree with everything he said.  This site does not, and will not support IE until such time as IE supports the standards \u2013 <em>like that will ever happen!<\/em>.  If you haven\u2019t already, fire up IE and take a look at this site.  You should notice that it degrades somewhat gracefully.  The content is fully accessible, though it\u2019s not quite as visually appealing as it is in <a href=\"http:\/\/getfirefox.com\/\">Firefox<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opera.com\/\">Opera<\/a>.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>Here are my reasons, especially for web developers like myself, to stop supporting IE and allow websites to noticably degrade in IE and other older browsers.  Most have already <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mezzoblue.com\/archives\/2003\/07\/15\/rip_netscape\/\" title=\"Mezzoblue \u00a7 R.I.P. Netscape\">totally given up on Netscape 4.x<\/a>, so it\u2019s about time we did the same for IE.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>The target audience for developer sites like this is, of course, web developers.  If web developers start to find that the resources they need to learn and improve their skills do not work in IE, they will be forced to use alternative browsers.  Of course, many developers like us already know about the plethora of bugs and serious lack of standards complaince in IE, but as can be seen by the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.w3schools.com\/browsers\/browsers_stats.asp\" title=\"Browser Statistics\">stats at W3Schools<\/a>, around 70% of web developers (well, of those that are just learning) still use IE.  It is these developers that we need to convert to better alternative browsers, and the sooner the better.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>By converting the developers, they will learn more about standards compliant, and interoperable code.  They will notice the severe flaws in IE\u2019s implementation.  They will be forced to make sites that work properly in non-IE browsers, since they\u2019ll be using one themselves.  As more sites adopt standards, and stop locking out non-IE browsers, we will have a better chance of <a href=\"http:\/\/spreadfirefox.com\/\">taking back the web<\/a>!<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>The Firefox community may be aiming for a <a href=\"http:\/\/news.com.com\/Firefox+aims+for+10+percent+of+Web+surfers\/2100-1032_3-5425918.html?tag=nefd.hed\" title=\"Firefox aims for 10 percent of Web surfers | CNET News.com\">10% market share<\/a> within 12 months among the general population, but among web developers we need to work harder.  I want to aim to completely reverse those stats on W3Schools.  Let\u2019s aim for 70% market share for non-IE browsers, including <a href=\"http:\/\/getfirefox.com\/\">Firefox<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opera.com\/\">Opera<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apple.com\/safari\/\">Safari<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.konqueror.org\/\">Konqueror<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.omnigroup.com\/applications\/omniweb\/\">Omni-Web<\/a> and Mosaic (<em>just kidding<\/em>), etc\u2026  So join us!  Remove the <a href=\"http:\/\/centricle.com\/ref\/css\/filters\/\" title=\"centricle: css filters (css hacks)\">countless IE hacks<\/a> from your stylesheet, except the ones that are absolutely necessary to maintain accessibility.  Indeed, there is even a single hack in my stylesheet that simply prevents the menu overlapping the main content. <em> Let\u2019s send a message to those that build the sites!<\/em>  <strong>Let\u2019s give them a reason to switch!<\/strong><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Recently, Charl van Niekerk posted his comments about dumping IE, and I totally agree with everything he said. This site does not, and will not support IE until such time as IE supports the standards \u2013 like that will ever happen!. If you haven\u2019t already, fire up IE and take a look at this site. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/2004\/10\/dont-support-ie\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Don\u2019t Support IE<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[5,15,6],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lachy.id.au\/log\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}